Anyone recoginize this person?

[Larry Stram]

WANTED for stealing a new MacBook laptop out of our showroom
today (March 22, 2008).

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He was pretty good, spent eight minutes in the store and managed to
keep everyone preoccupied long enough to open the box and slip the
laptop into his pants.

He had an accomplice. In the surveillance video we can see he exited
the passenger side of the vehicle that pulled up to the store.

If anyone here recognizes this person please either email me or leave a
voice message at 256-721-1700 extension 100 (Huntsville number).
Your information will be kept confidential.

larry at machsv dot com

Mac Resource
6485 University Drive
Huntsville, AL 35806
[phone]
[phone] FAX


http://www.machsv.com/composite.jpg

[Leopold Stotch]

Post by Larry Stram
WANTED for stealing a new MacBook laptop out of our showroom
today (March 22, 2008).
http://www.machsv.com/composite.jpg
He was pretty good, spent eight minutes in the store and managed to
keep everyone preoccupied long enough to open the box and slip the
laptop into his pants.
He had an accomplice. In the surveillance video we can see he exited
the passenger side of the vehicle that pulled up to the store.
If anyone here recognizes this person please either email me or leave a
voice message at 256-721-1700 extension 100 (Huntsville number).
Your information will be kept confidential.
larry at machsv dot com
Mac Resource
6485 University Drive
Huntsville, AL 35806
[phone]
[phone] FAX
http://www.machsv.com/composite.jpg

Don't recognize him but that is a *good* picture. Much better than what
most surveillance cameras produce. If you can get wide spread
distribution of that image someone should recognize him. If you can get
the local news channel that runs the "crime busters" (or is it "crime
stoppers") to run those pictures I highly suspect someone will give you
an ID.

Are you absolutely sure that is the guy that did the deed? Any images
of him putting the goods in his pants?

Hope you catch him. Can't stand thieves.

[Larry Stram]

Thanks, that was my idea. If I could post it to the masses someone may
see it and recognize him. I thought of putting it on the electronic
billboard on University Drive in front of Best Buy. The stories on
Crime Stoppers are selected by HPD, they make suggestions and Crime
Stoppers decide who goes on the air.

I don't have pictures of him putting down his pants because he was
behind one of the display counters, but I do have the video of him
pulling the computer box out of place to where he did his deed.

I actually had a camera see the whole thing but I hadn't turned it on
to record. It is now turned on for recording.

What gets me is when I called the cops to report the crime all they did
was take the report over the phone. Then they told me if I wanted a
copy of the report to come down and pay them $5.

Once again, if anyone recognizes this person please email me or leave a
voice mail at 256-721-1700 ext 100

http://www.machsv.com/loser.html

Post by Leopold Stotch

Post by Larry Stram
WANTED for stealing a new MacBook laptop out of our showroom
today (March 22, 2008).
http://www.machsv.com/loser.html
He was pretty good, spent eight minutes in the store and managed to
keep everyone preoccupied long enough to open the box and slip the
laptop into his pants.
He had an accomplice. In the surveillance video we can see he exited
the passenger side of the vehicle that pulled up to the store.
If anyone here recognizes this person please either email me or leave a
voice message at 256-721-1700 extension 100 (Huntsville number).
Your information will be kept confidential.
larry at machsv dot com
Mac Resource
6485 University Drive
Huntsville, AL 35806
[phone]
[phone] FAX
http://www.machsv.com/loser.html

Don't recognize him but that is a *good* picture. Much better than what
most surveillance cameras produce. If you can get wide spread
distribution of that image someone should recognize him. If you can get
the local news channel that runs the "crime busters" (or is it "crime
stoppers") to run those pictures I highly suspect someone will give you
an ID.
Are you absolutely sure that is the guy that did the deed? Any images
of him putting the goods in his pants?
Hope you catch him. Can't stand thieves.

[Leopold Stotch]

Unfortunately there may be all of ten people who regularly visit this
forum. You probably want to try some Huntsville, AL web based forums
like al.com ( http://www.al.com/forums/huntsville/ ). You'll get more
eyeballs on the perp there than you ever will here. I'm sure there are
other Huntsville area forums besides al.com, but unfortunately I can't
help you there. Looks like he may be college age or a little older. Is
there a UAH web forum out there somewhere?

An email to the TV station that runs Crime Stoppers couldn't hurt
(what's the downside?). If they knew that nice clear pictures of a
suspect existed they might prod HPD to suggest the case.

HPD took the complaint entirely over the phone? Does this mean they
aren't interested and don't have the surveillance pictures? Incredible.

[k***@hiwaay.net]

In hsv.forsale Leopold Stotch <***@southpark.org> wrote:
: Unfortunately there may be all of ten people who regularly visit this
: forum. You probably want to try some Huntsville, AL web based forums
: like al.com ( http://www.al.com/forums/huntsville/ ). You'll get more
: eyeballs on the perp there than you ever will here. I'm sure there are
: other Huntsville area forums besides al.com, but unfortunately I can't
: help you there. Looks like he may be college age or a little older. Is
: there a UAH web forum out there somewhere?

: An email to the TV station that runs Crime Stoppers couldn't hurt
: (what's the downside?). If they knew that nice clear pictures of a
: suspect existed they might prod HPD to suggest the case.

: HPD took the complaint entirely over the phone? Does this mean they
: aren't interested and don't have the surveillance pictures? Incredible.

Also post on the Hsv Craigslist and maybe even Bhm one.

[Leopold Stotch]

Post by k***@hiwaay.net
: Unfortunately there may be all of ten people who regularly visit this
: forum. You probably want to try some Huntsville, AL web based forums
: like al.com ( http://www.al.com/forums/huntsville/ ). You'll get more
: eyeballs on the perp there than you ever will here. I'm sure there are
: other Huntsville area forums besides al.com, but unfortunately I can't
: help you there. Looks like he may be college age or a little older. Is
: there a UAH web forum out there somewhere?
: An email to the TV station that runs Crime Stoppers couldn't hurt
: (what's the downside?). If they knew that nice clear pictures of a
: suspect existed they might prod HPD to suggest the case.
: HPD took the complaint entirely over the phone? Does this mean they
: aren't interested and don't have the surveillance pictures? Incredible.
Also post on the Hsv Craigslist and maybe even Bhm one.

Yes, HSV Craigslist is an excellent idea.

[Bob & Holly Wilson]

Post by Leopold Stotch

Post by k***@hiwaay.net
: Unfortunately there may be all of ten people who regularly visit this
: forum. You probably want to try some Huntsville, AL web based forums
: like al.com ( http://www.al.com/forums/huntsville/ ). You'll get more
: eyeballs on the perp there than you ever will here. I'm sure there are
: other Huntsville area forums besides al.com, but unfortunately I can't
: help you there. Looks like he may be college age or a little older. Is
: there a UAH web forum out there somewhere?
: An email to the TV station that runs Crime Stoppers couldn't hurt
: (what's the downside?). If they knew that nice clear pictures of a
: suspect existed they might prod HPD to suggest the case.
: HPD took the complaint entirely over the phone? Does this mean they
: aren't interested and don't have the surveillance pictures? Incredible.
Also post on the Hsv Craigslist and maybe even Bhm one.

Yes, HSV Craigslist is an excellent idea.

YouTube?

Bob Wilson

[Larry Stram]

Post by Leopold Stotch

Post by k***@hiwaay.net
: Unfortunately there may be all of ten people who regularly visit this
: forum. You probably want to try some Huntsville, AL web based forums
: like al.com ( http://www.al.com/forums/huntsville/ ). You'll get more
: eyeballs on the perp there than you ever will here. I'm sure there are
: other Huntsville area forums besides al.com, but unfortunately I can't
: help you there. Looks like he may be college age or a little older. Is
: there a UAH web forum out there somewhere?
: An email to the TV station that runs Crime Stoppers couldn't hurt
: (what's the downside?). If they knew that nice clear pictures of a
: suspect existed they might prod HPD to suggest the case.
: HPD took the complaint entirely over the phone? Does this mean they
: aren't interested and don't have the surveillance pictures? Incredible.
Also post on the Hsv Craigslist and maybe even Bhm one.

Yes, HSV Craigslist is an excellent idea.

Yes, Craigslist was a good one. I also did the AL.COM forums in both
Huntsville and Madison. I got 270 hits from Huntsville Craigslist and
107 hits from the Birmingham Craigslist. The al.com forum brought 127
hits from Madison list and 40 from the Huntsville list. Now the post
got buried pretty quick on the Huntsville list. Then the picture hit
DIGG.com Looks like the newsgroup got me 66 hits.

The al.com post got WAFF channel 48 come over today to do a story that
they plan to show at 10PM tonight (Tuesday).

But it seems the thief doesn't use his computer to get on the internet
because he showed back up this afternoon. He walked in and turn around
real quick either because we weren't as busy as we were on Saturday or
realized we recognized him. They parked their car in the Cook's Pest
Control parking lot which sets behind our building. Our guys chased
him and got his tag number.

Called the cops but they didn't seem interested. But they are driving
a two-tone Mercedes, black on top and silver or gray on the bottom with
the tag number 57721AV

[Bob & Holly Wilson]

Post by Larry Stram
the tag number 57721AV

I wanted a custom tag "52MPG" but the Alabama web site would not let me
start a tag with "57721AV." Did the employee notice any sort of state
identifier?

Truth be told, this sounds like a 'diplomat' tag. Now the only place I
know that has any such critters hangin' around is Redstone. I believe
the treaty about medium range missles still lets some of those former
Soviet block assholes on base to 'count' whatever.

I think I'll take a little drive through the base tomorrow.

What is the list price? About $1,400?

Bob Wilson

[Larry Stram]

Post by Bob & Holly Wilson

Post by Larry Stram
the tag number 57721AV

I wanted a custom tag "52MPG" but the Alabama web site would not let me
start a tag with "57721AV." Did the employee notice any sort of state
identifier?
Truth be told, this sounds like a 'diplomat' tag. Now the only place I
know that has any such critters hangin' around is Redstone. I believe
the treaty about medium range missles still lets some of those former
Soviet block assholes on base to 'count' whatever.
I think I'll take a little drive through the base tomorrow.
What is the list price? About $1,400?
Bob Wilson

I have a friend in Prattville who has friends at the police department.
They told him the tag is one of a new format tags and is only two
months old. They tell him because it takes the state up to 2-3 months
to get the information into the system it may be a while before they
have any info.

List price was $1175. It was the last of the previous edition MacBook
units I still had in stock. It was a custom build lowend MacBook with
a larger than normal hard drive.

[Leopold Stotch]

Saw the segment. That should get *lots* of eyeballs. Hopefully they
will also carry the story and pictures on their website (I think that is
standard operating procedure).

Hope you catch this guy.

[Joe]

You have photo and a licence tag number and the police are uninterested? I
would raise hell until they did. If you complain enough, they will.

Joe

Post by Larry Stram

Post by Leopold Stotch

Post by k***@hiwaay.net
: Unfortunately there may be all of ten people who regularly visit this
: forum. You probably want to try some Huntsville, AL web based forums
: like al.com ( http://www.al.com/forums/huntsville/ ). You'll get more
: eyeballs on the perp there than you ever will here. I'm sure there are
: other Huntsville area forums besides al.com, but unfortunately I can't
: help you there. Looks like he may be college age or a little older.
Is
: there a UAH web forum out there somewhere?
: An email to the TV station that runs Crime Stoppers couldn't hurt
: (what's the downside?). If they knew that nice clear pictures of a
: suspect existed they might prod HPD to suggest the case.
: HPD took the complaint entirely over the phone? Does this mean they
: aren't interested and don't have the surveillance pictures?
Incredible.
Also post on the Hsv Craigslist and maybe even Bhm one.

Yes, HSV Craigslist is an excellent idea.

Yes, Craigslist was a good one. I also did the AL.COM forums in both
Huntsville and Madison. I got 270 hits from Huntsville Craigslist and
107 hits from the Birmingham Craigslist. The al.com forum brought 127
hits from Madison list and 40 from the Huntsville list. Now the post
got buried pretty quick on the Huntsville list. Then the picture hit
DIGG.com Looks like the newsgroup got me 66 hits.
The al.com post got WAFF channel 48 come over today to do a story that
they plan to show at 10PM tonight (Tuesday).
But it seems the thief doesn't use his computer to get on the internet
because he showed back up this afternoon. He walked in and turn around
real quick either because we weren't as busy as we were on Saturday or
realized we recognized him. They parked their car in the Cook's Pest
Control parking lot which sets behind our building. Our guys chased
him and got his tag number.
Called the cops but they didn't seem interested. But they are driving
a two-tone Mercedes, black on top and silver or gray on the bottom with
the tag number 57721AV

[Jean Smith]

Post by Joe
You have photo and a licence tag number and the police are uninterested? I
would raise hell until they did. If you complain enough, they will.
Joe

Post by Larry Stram

Post by Leopold Stotch

Post by k***@hiwaay.net
: Unfortunately there may be all of ten people who regularly visit this
: forum. You probably want to try some Huntsville, AL web based forums
: like al.com ( http://www.al.com/forums/huntsville/ ). You'll get more
: eyeballs on the perp there than you ever will here. I'm sure there are
: other Huntsville area forums besides al.com, but unfortunately I can't
: help you there. Looks like he may be college age or a little older.
Is
: there a UAH web forum out there somewhere?
: An email to the TV station that runs Crime Stoppers couldn't hurt
: (what's the downside?). If they knew that nice clear pictures of a
: suspect existed they might prod HPD to suggest the case.
: HPD took the complaint entirely over the phone? Does this mean they
: aren't interested and don't have the surveillance pictures?
Incredible.
Also post on the Hsv Craigslist and maybe even Bhm one.

Yes, HSV Craigslist is an excellent idea.

Yes, Craigslist was a good one. I also did the AL.COM forums in both
Huntsville and Madison. I got 270 hits from Huntsville Craigslist and
107 hits from the Birmingham Craigslist. The al.com forum brought 127
hits from Madison list and 40 from the Huntsville list. Now the post
got buried pretty quick on the Huntsville list. Then the picture hit
DIGG.com Looks like the newsgroup got me 66 hits.
The al.com post got WAFF channel 48 come over today to do a story that
they plan to show at 10PM tonight (Tuesday).
But it seems the thief doesn't use his computer to get on the internet
because he showed back up this afternoon. He walked in and turn around
real quick either because we weren't as busy as we were on Saturday or
realized we recognized him. They parked their car in the Cook's Pest
Control parking lot which sets behind our building. Our guys chased
him and got his tag number.
Called the cops but they didn't seem interested. But they are driving
a two-tone Mercedes, black on top and silver or gray on the bottom with
the tag number 57721AV

Won't the computer dial-in as soon as it recognizes an internet
connection?

[David Kelly]

Post by Larry Stram
Called the cops but they didn't seem interested.

Remember this next time someone wants to socialize health care.

[Leopold Stotch]

Post by David Kelly

Post by Larry Stram
Called the cops but they didn't seem interested.

Remember this next time someone wants to socialize health care.

Exactly. Why is it that some of the same people that will complain
about the quality of various government "services" and in general
espouse a world view that is distrustful of government motives are often
the same ones who propose to nationalize something important like health
care. Perhaps they believe that government is evil and incompetent only
when it is controlled by the "other" (i.e. Republican) party.
Personally, I have seen no difference in the level of incompetence or
indifference towards the customer (i.e. the taxpayer) when either party
is in control. The DMV and the Post Office are about the same no matter
which party has a majority. Monopolies are like that. Of course, while
most people have an instinctive distrust of monopolies in the private
sector they seem to have a blind spot when it comes to monopolies in the
public sector. In my opinion, public sector monopolies are far worse
since they are backed by the coercive powers of the state. At the end
of the day, no matter how bad your opinion of Microsoft may be, at least
they can not force you to buy their product at the point of a gun.
Behind every federal bureaucracy on the other hand is the implied use of
force.

[Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen]

Post by Leopold Stotch
Exactly. Why is it that some of the same people that will
complain about the quality of various government "services" and in
general espouse a world view that is distrustful of government
motives are often the same ones who propose to nationalize
something important like health care.

Who? Where, specifically. You said "the same people". Who are they?


And while we're at it, what specifically do you mean by
"nationalize"?

[Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen]

Post by David Kelly

Post by Larry Stram
Called the cops but they didn't seem interested.

Remember this next time someone wants to socialize health care.

Surely you'll be able to tell us precisely what "socialize" means in
this context -- apart from mererly being a right-wing snarl word.
And I'm sure you can tell us specifically what's wrong with the thing
you're against.

[David Kelly]

Post by Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen

Post by David Kelly

Post by Larry Stram
Called the cops but they didn't seem interested.

Remember this next time someone wants to socialize health care.

Surely you'll be able to tell us precisely what "socialize" means in
this context -- apart from mererly being a right-wing snarl word.
And I'm sure you can tell us specifically what's wrong with the thing
you're against.

By "socialize" I mean exactly what Larry experienced. The police don't
have to do any better because they have a monopoly.

As has happened with socialized (public) education. Educators only have
to go through the motions of being concerned, results don't matter. They
don't have to compete with other schools or teachers because you are not
allowed to switch. Your children are assigned to a school and the only
way to switch is to move to another school district.

We saw a limited demonstration of socialized medicine with much hated
HMO's. As typical with socialized government, the organization is
virtually immune from liability or accountability.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Maintenance_Organization#Legal_responsibilities

[Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen]

Post by David Kelly
By "socialize" I mean exactly what Larry experienced. The police
don't have to do any better because they have a monopoly.

So why is it that some places (e.g., where the citizens demand good law
enforcement and are willing to pay for it) Have good law enforcerment,
and other places, especially way out in the sticks, where people don't
organize and don't pay for good law enforcement, have crap law
enforcement?

In both cases law enforcement is a monopoly. According to the dogma of
the ultra-right, both places should both have crap law enforcemeent.

And, as we've seen in this very thread, the quality of law enforcement
*does* vary. Well, some people's beliefs are evidence-proof. I'm sure
Madeline Kara Neumann's parents never figured out that prayer doesn't
work. And now Kara is dead and they're going to prison. Some ultra-
right dogmatists can't see a municipal service that isn't eveeill and
a corporate enterprise that isn't ontologically good.

And those people will never organize and they'll always get fucked
over.

How's the value of your house doing these days?

[Larry Stram]

Post by David Kelly

Post by Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen

Post by David Kelly

Post by Larry Stram
Called the cops but they didn't seem interested.

Remember this next time someone wants to socialize health care.

Surely you'll be able to tell us precisely what "socialize" means in
this context -- apart from mererly being a right-wing snarl word.
And I'm sure you can tell us specifically what's wrong with the thing
you're against.

By "socialize" I mean exactly what Larry experienced. The police don't
have to do any better because they have a monopoly.

to add a side note to this...

The automobile the getaway driver of this theft was driving had a tag
registered in Birmingham. HPD has told me they can't get the
Birmingham police to cooperate or assist them in tracking down the
driver.

[DDF]

Sounds like you need to give up on the local rent-a-cops who don't
want to help. Have you tried directly contacting the STATE police and
telling them your tale of woe? State cops usually have more training/
resources than the local sheriff guys.

My brother used to be a state cop up in Michigan, he knows computer
forensics. He had to go to training that was tougher than boot camp
(ex-military guys with him), was a master marksman and during his
career solved hundreds of cases. Now he's retired, with pension,
working as a private investigator for more than I make programming
computers....

Have you tried WALKING your evidence into a state police office? I
would.

[Jean Smith]

In article

Post by DDF
Sounds like you need to give up on the local rent-a-cops who don't
want to help. Have you tried directly contacting the STATE police and
telling them your tale of woe? State cops usually have more training/
resources than the local sheriff guys.
My brother used to be a state cop up in Michigan, he knows computer
forensics. He had to go to training that was tougher than boot camp
(ex-military guys with him), was a master marksman and during his
career solved hundreds of cases. Now he's retired, with pension,
working as a private investigator for more than I make programming
computers....
Have you tried WALKING your evidence into a state police office? I
would.

Is the lack of interest driven by the lack of a gun in the event?
computers certainly are more valuable than the take in a usual stickup.

[Jean Smith]

In article

Post by DDF
Sounds like you need to give up on the local rent-a-cops who don't
want to help. Have you tried directly contacting the STATE police and
telling them your tale of woe? State cops usually have more training/
resources than the local sheriff guys.
My brother used to be a state cop up in Michigan, he knows computer
forensics. He had to go to training that was tougher than boot camp
(ex-military guys with him), was a master marksman and during his
career solved hundreds of cases. Now he's retired, with pension,
working as a private investigator for more than I make programming
computers....
Have you tried WALKING your evidence into a state police office? I
would.

Is Mac Resource in the county rather than the city? Wasn't there a
county based titty bar up there? See the white area on this map.
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?title=University+of+Alabama+in+Hunts
ville&zipcode=35899&cid=lfmaplink

[Uncle Lar]

Post by Jean Smith
In article

Post by DDF
Sounds like you need to give up on the local rent-a-cops who don't
want to help. Have you tried directly contacting the STATE police and
telling them your tale of woe? State cops usually have more training/
resources than the local sheriff guys.
My brother used to be a state cop up in Michigan, he knows computer
forensics. He had to go to training that was tougher than boot camp
(ex-military guys with him), was a master marksman and during his
career solved hundreds of cases. Now he's retired, with pension,
working as a private investigator for more than I make programming
computers....
Have you tried WALKING your evidence into a state police office? I
would.

Is Mac Resource in the county rather than the city? Wasn't there a
county based titty bar up there? See the white area on this map.
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?title=University+of+Alabama+in+Hunts
ville&zipcode=35899&cid=lfmaplink

No, they are next to the Burger King right at the top of the hill past
Target. Still on the city side of all those car dealerships and the
turn off to Providence.
IIRC the dollar figure to determine a felony was still $1000, so even
if it is only shoplifting it's felony shoplifting. Add in that the
so-and-sos came back to do it again and IMHO worth some time to give
them a bit of grief. State police sounds like a fine idea to me.

[Larry Stram]

Post by Uncle Lar

Post by Jean Smith
Is Mac Resource in the county rather than the city? Wasn't there a
county based titty bar up there? See the white area on this map.
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?title=University+of+Alabama+in+Hunts
ville&zipcode=35899&cid=lfmaplink

No, they are next to the Burger King right at the top of the hill past
Target. Still on the city side of all those car dealerships and the
turn off to Providence.
IIRC the dollar figure to determine a felony was still $1000, so even
if it is only shoplifting it's felony shoplifting. Add in that the
so-and-sos came back to do it again and IMHO worth some time to give
them a bit of grief. State police sounds like a fine idea to me.

The city limits zigzags all over out this way. The way it works when
you get out this way is if you want to tap into Huntsville sewer system
you have to join the city.

Our building is inside the city limits, the tittybar is across the
street and it is in the county. Everything on the south side is inside
the limits down to Jeff Sikes' car lot. But the car dealers on the
north side and CVS is inside the city.

The lot the new CarMax sets on is in the county, but I'll bet they
annexed the property into the city before they started building.

The computer was $1175, so it's a felony.

FYI - Never use mapquest, always use google maps
<http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=mac+resource+universit
y+huntsville&ie=UTF8&ll=34.74669,-86.686517&spn=0.005633,0.007381&t=h&z=
17>

[Jean Smith]

Post by Larry Stram

Post by Uncle Lar

Post by Jean Smith
Is Mac Resource in the county rather than the city? Wasn't there a
county based titty bar up there? See the white area on this map.
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?title=University+of+Alabama+in+Hunts
ville&zipcode=35899&cid=lfmaplink

No, they are next to the Burger King right at the top of the hill past
Target. Still on the city side of all those car dealerships and the
turn off to Providence.
IIRC the dollar figure to determine a felony was still $1000, so even
if it is only shoplifting it's felony shoplifting. Add in that the
so-and-sos came back to do it again and IMHO worth some time to give
them a bit of grief. State police sounds like a fine idea to me.

The city limits zigzags all over out this way. The way it works when
you get out this way is if you want to tap into Huntsville sewer system
you have to join the city.
Our building is inside the city limits, the tittybar is across the
street and it is in the county. Everything on the south side is inside
the limits down to Jeff Sikes' car lot. But the car dealers on the
north side and CVS is inside the city.
The lot the new CarMax sets on is in the county, but I'll bet they
annexed the property into the city before they started building.
The computer was $1175, so it's a felony.
FYI - Never use mapquest, always use google maps
<http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=mac+resource+universit
y+huntsville&ie=UTF8&ll=34.74669,-86.686517&spn=0.005633,0.007381&t=h&z=
17>

The city precinct map is ambiguous, but you are here:
http://gismaps.hsvcity.com/address/Default.aspx?tab=select

[Barry]

Post by Larry Stram
The city limits zigzags all over out this way. The way it works when
you get out this way is if you want to tap into Huntsville sewer system
you have to join the city.
Our building is inside the city limits, the tittybar is across the
street and it is in the county. Everything on the south side is inside
the limits down to Jeff Sikes' car lot. But the car dealers on the
north side and CVS is inside the city.
The lot the new CarMax sets on is in the county, but I'll bet they
annexed the property into the city before they started building.
The computer was $1175, so it's a felony.

Well, if he stole a computer, he might be reading hsv.general/forsale...

Barry

[Ron Hammon]

Post by Barry

Post by Larry Stram
The city limits zigzags all over out this way. The way it works when
you get out this way is if you want to tap into Huntsville sewer system
you have to join the city.
Our building is inside the city limits, the tittybar is across the
street and it is in the county. Everything on the south side is inside
the limits down to Jeff Sikes' car lot. But the car dealers on the
north side and CVS is inside the city.
The lot the new CarMax sets on is in the county, but I'll bet they
annexed the property into the city before they started building.
The computer was $1175, so it's a felony.

Well, if he stole a computer, he might be reading hsv.general/forsale...
Barry

Or, listing on craigslist. ;-)

Ron Hammon

[Leopold Stotch]

Post by Ron Hammon

Post by Barry

Post by Larry Stram
The city limits zigzags all over out this way. The way it works when
you get out this way is if you want to tap into Huntsville sewer system
you have to join the city.
Our building is inside the city limits, the tittybar is across the
street and it is in the county. Everything on the south side is inside
the limits down to Jeff Sikes' car lot. But the car dealers on the
north side and CVS is inside the city.
The lot the new CarMax sets on is in the county, but I'll bet they
annexed the property into the city before they started building.
The computer was $1175, so it's a felony.

Well, if he stole a computer, he might be reading hsv.general/forsale...
Barry

Or, listing on craigslist. ;-)
Ron Hammon

Most likely if he's going to sell it there is an excellent chance it
will show up on eBay. I like eBay, but it is without a doubt the
largest clearing house for stolen merchandise on the planet.

[Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen]

The kindly Rev. overheard Uncle Lar <***@hiwaay.net> saying on
Fri 28 Mar 2008 12:34:35p:


State police sounds like a fine

Post by Uncle Lar
idea to me.

Actually, I've had a couple of experiences with the HSV city police
where they really impressed me. In one case when I just moved here,
someone burglarized my apartment when I was out of town and by the
time I got back they'd arrested the burglar and rounded up every
single item and put it in a box and handed it to me.

If you live in a smaller town or out in the county, maybe you'll have
a different experience. Municipal services are the same as coffee
and pizza: you get what you pay for.

[Ron Hammon]

Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen wrote:
snip

Post by Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen
I've had a couple of experiences with the HSV city police
where they really impressed me.

snip

Post by Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen
If you live in a smaller town or out in the county, maybe you'll have
a different experience. Municipal services are the same as coffee
and pizza: you get what you pay for.

Bullshit. What you pay has nothing to do with it.

Ron Hammon

[Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen]

Post by Ron Hammon

Post by Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen
If you live in a smaller town or out in the county, maybe you'll
have a different experience. Municipal services are the same as
coffee and pizza: you get what you pay for.

Bullshit. What you pay has nothing to do with it.

Finely reasoned as always.

[Ron Hammon]

Post by Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen

Post by Ron Hammon

Post by Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen
If you live in a smaller town or out in the county, maybe you'll
have a different experience. Municipal services are the same as
coffee and pizza: you get what you pay for.

Bullshit. What you pay has nothing to do with it.

Finely reasoned as always.

And, as always, your answer is to throw more money at every issue.

Ron Hammon

[Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen]

Post by Ron Hammon

Post by Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen
Municipal services are the same as

Post by Ron Hammon

Post by Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen
coffee and pizza: you get what you pay for.

Bullshit. What you pay has nothing to do with it.

Finely reasoned as always.

And, as always, your answer is to throw more money at every issue.

And I see you haven't lost your firm grasp on right-wing cant and
stereotypes.

It's called "civilization," Ron. One of these days it might catch on.

It's good to be back.

[Ron Hammon]

Post by Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen

Post by Ron Hammon

Post by Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen
Municipal services are the same as

Post by Ron Hammon

Post by Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen
coffee and pizza: you get what you pay for.

Bullshit. What you pay has nothing to do with it.

Finely reasoned as always.

And, as always, your answer is to throw more money at every issue.

And I see you haven't lost your firm grasp on right-wing cant and
stereotypes.
It's called "civilization," Ron. One of these days it might catch on.

What you like to call "civilization" is what many call "socialism",
where the needs of the many trump the needs of the few... everytime. It
caught on, for a short while, until the fantasy collapsed on its face.

Your vision of utopia seems to be an Orwellian wet dream, where all
individual thought and action, along with crime and violence, is purged
from everyone's drab existence. "The Prisoner".

Ron Hammon

[Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen]

Post by Ron Hammon

Post by Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen

Post by Ron Hammon

Post by Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen
Municipal services are the same as

Post by Ron Hammon

Post by Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen
coffee and pizza: you get what you pay for.

Bullshit. What you pay has nothing to do with it.

Finely reasoned as always.

And, as always, your answer is to throw more money at every
issue.

And I see you haven't lost your firm grasp on right-wing cant and
stereotypes.
It's called "civilization," Ron. One of these days it might catch on.

What you like to call "civilization" is what many call
"socialism", where the needs of the many trump the needs of the
few... everytime.

"Many"? If you're "the few", how can "many" people call it your
right-wing snarl word?

Post by Ron Hammon
It caught on, for a short while, until the
fantasy collapsed on its face.
Your vision of utopia seems to be an Orwellian wet dream, where
all individual thought and action, along with crime and violence,
is purged from everyone's drab existence. "The Prisoner".

"Socialism?" My fantasy? My vision? Those old stereotypes and
prejudices kicking in again?

Reality-free zone there on the radical right.

Oh yeah, a free people demanding that their elected representatives
provide services they need and then kicking them out when they don't?
Christ! That's scary!

Well, I know I've lost the sullen loner vote.

[Bill Rainey]

<<snip>>
"Socialism?" My fantasy? My vision? Those old stereotypes and
prejudices kicking in again?
Reality-free zone there on the radical right.
Oh yeah, a free people demanding that their elected representatives
provide services they need and then kicking them out when they don't?
Christ! That's scary!
Well, I know I've lost the sullen loner vote.

Yawn...

I'm still trying to figure out what's for sale here, seeing as how this
was posted on hsv.FORSALE!

If you're not selling something, kindly take this "discussion" off of
this group!